Me and King

Please read this , I typed all that, i hope you read it

"I said things that I see them as I find them, " so now you should agree with me since you take things as you see them

1) The verse he quoted, jesus one of his disciple philip asked him: " Lord, show us the Father" and Jesus said:" since i've been among you, don't you know me. anyone who has seen me has seen the Father."

considering how you look at things you are saying father and jesus are the same person ( contridicts number 1)

2) 1st verse of John 14, jesus says : " Trust in God; trust also in me", There are 2 different persons.
contridicts with number 1

3) 1 John 4.12
12No man hath seen God at any time. If we love one another, God dwelleth in us, and his love is perfected in us.

no man hath seen god , very clear if we take it as it was said right
again contridicts with number 1

4) john 6.45,46

45It is written in the prophets, And they shall be all taught of God. Every man therefore that hath heard, and hath learned of the Father, cometh unto me.

46Not that any man hath seen the Father, save he which is of God, he hath seen the Father.

so are all the ones who have seen jesus from god????


so how can you say
" I am sorry King, but it is you who are delusional"
if you have not studied your own bible??

also "I said things that I see them as I find them, not what have been passed on from scholars and priests, which obviously is the case for you."
The bible is not meant to just be read and taken as what you say, you study it as a whole and not just pick what you want out of it , because if you do that it will contridict each other as i have shown you


John 20.17:
" do not hold on to me, go instead to my brothers, my disciples and tell them, I am returning to my Father and your Father, to my God and your God."


what does that mean?????

For example Jesus clearly says to Mary from Magdala in John 20.17:
" do not hold on to me, go instead to my brothers, my disciples and tell them, I am returning to my Father and your Father, to my God and your God."

And the verse 1 John 5.20
It doesn't give to Jesus the right to divinity
verse says this " we know that the Son of God has come, to give us the knowledge of the truth, and we are in the truth in his Son Jesus christ He is the true God and the eternal life

What does that mean?

Pay attention now

if you take this verse in a litteral meaning,
you will directly contredict with the words of jesus himself in John 17.3 where he says addressing to god " The eternal Life is for them to know you, the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom you have sent."

Jesus is saying about God that he is the true god and that he is just a messenger of God

Didn't he say that he was the way?
no one goes to The Father, who does not go through him

He is the way not the destination,
Way to the airport isn't the airport
isn't that right?

People are just victim of the system created by the catholic church, the " christocentrism".
Meaning we have to interput the bible int he light of Jesus


I suggest you study the bible and not just read it

Peace to you

Authenticity of Islam

Let's debate this one. Please feel free to add your comments here regarding this topic.

Islam and women rights

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Contradictions in Quran

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The issue is that Muslims assert that there are no contradictions in the Quran and that it is a perfect book sent down by God.

Well I would encourage you to click here and read through some of the contradictions that have been found in the Quran. What do you say about it now? Can you refute them? Or do you admit that Quran does in fact have contradictions?

Is Muhammad a True Prophet?

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How can we consider Muhammad a true prophet when he didn't predict anything? So obviously none of his predictions came true. He performed no miracles, (Quran was not HIS miracle, it was Allah's) He never even spoke to God, or God ever spoke to him directly, all other prophets had some kind of interaction with God.

Islam and Science

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Quran has many scientific miracles, or does it? Click here to get some of the answer. Your thoughts?

Muhammad and Aisha

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Here's my take on this issue. Many documented evidence have shown us that Aisha indeed was a child and was immature and most importantly didn't understand the concept of marriages and sex. Yet, the prophet of God deemed necessary to continue this old Arab tradition instead of abolishing it.

By doing so he created a precedent for all Muslims, for all time. Which is preciously why we see so many underage marriages even today in most of the Islamic world. And why not, their prophet and the founder of their religion did it so it is their duty to emulate him.

The problem does not lie in Muhammad’s sexuality and what forms it took, although a moral case can certainly be made on that basis alone.

The moral crime really lies in Muhammad’s role as a setter of precedent. With Aisha’s early initiation into sex and marriage, he set the precedent for all future followers in all ages that the onset of menstruation marks sexual readiness in girls: this is a medically, socially and psychologically harmful position to hold. That’s Muhammad’s moral crime, of which he was of course completely unaware, not being the prophet of God. And that’s what Muslims have to face and refute: a prophet of god setting a harmful precedent.